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A Dog Fight - Understanding your Pack

 

What was behind it? What went wrong? Why did it happen? (a true story)

A lady was walking all three of her dogs. A full grown Miniature Pinscher, a full grown Shiloh Shepherd, and a 15 week old black Shiloh Shepherd puppy. All three dogs were pulling in front of her, she was behind them holding the leads.

The pack is leading the way

They ran into a male neighbor who was also walking his two dogs. He had a full grown Rottweiler and he also had a 15 week old Shiloh Shepherd puppy (the Shepherd pups were littermates).

Proper way to walk a dog

The owners stopped to say "Hi" to one another.

Suddenly the lady's Min Pin started an all out rumble with the neighbors Rottie and Shepherd puppy. This was broken up by the two owners. They pulled their dogs off of one another. The Min Pin had been known to attack other dogs in the past.

The Two Packs Meet

Seconds later while the lady's adult Shepherd was sniffing the Rottie's back end, the Rottie had turned to try and sniff the Shepherd, and the Shepherd attacked. An all out attack. The Rottie then attacked back at the adult Shepherd. The adult Shepherd dominated the neighbors puppy as well, by getting on top of him. This was the first time the adult Shepherd had attacked another dog.

The lady owner with the three dogs yelled loudly at her dogs as she pulled her Shepherd off of the Rottie and pup, but in the process mistakenly dropped the lead to her own Shepherd puppy.  While the neighbor with the two dogs started to walk his dogs away, her 15 week old black pup took off running after the Rottie and Shepherd pup. The lady's black pup proceeded to dominate the man's pup by pinning her to the ground and growling terribly. Now we have two 15 week old puppies (litter mates), one dominating the other.

Black pup dominating Gray Pup

According to the lady owner with the three dogs, the neighbors Rottie is very well-trained and an obedient dog with good social manners. She did not believe the Rottie was at fault since her Min Pin attacked first. But why? Why would all three of the lady's dogs attack? Why would one puppy attack another puppy? Why would a dog who usually gets along with other dogs suddenly attack? What's behind this in the dogs minds and eyes. How do the dogs see this story?

Rottie and Shepherd puppy show good social manners. When the owner stops, the dogs sit down
 

Answers

The lady owner was walking all three of her dogs at one time. The pack was out for a walk. In a dogs world, there must be a leader and the leader always leads the way. In this case, it was the Min Pin, followed by the other two dogs, the adult Shepherd and the Shepherd puppy, than the human owner. In her dogs eyes, she was a follower in her pack, the dogs were leading.

Who's in charge here?

When the first dog attacked, the owner freaked out, so the dogs saw her as weak and instinctually thought they MUST take over. It’s instinct, dogs pick up on human energy and see fear and anxiety as weak energy. Dogs do not listen to weak energy and they do not listen to followers. The lady with the three dogs was being perceived as a follower in her own dogs eyes, so the pack took orders from the Min Pin. The Min Pin decided it was time to attack and his energy put the rest of the canine pack in attack mode. The only one in the pack who didn't attack was the human, but in the dog's eyes, that was ok, because the human was the weak pack member. The others were mentally strong enough to make up for it.

You guessed it, the dogs are

The order of her pack goes as follows...

The Min Pin is the leader. She attacked first and set the energy for all three of the other dogs.

The 15 week old black puppy is second in line

The adult Shepherd is third in line

And the lady owner is last in the order. She was walking behind the pack, giving the dogs a sense of leadership over her. She initially greeted the neighbor with much excitement, which dogs perceived as unstable energy. Her dogs also felt her emotions when the first dog attacked, it startled her. To the dogs she released weak unstable energy during the meeting of these two packs. She was automatically put last in the order. The weaker minded dogs are last.

 

The proper way to walk a dog is the dog walking either beside you, or behind you, never in front of you, leads should be loose with slack, no pulling. This may seem petty in a human's mind, however it means a lot in a dogs mind. Instinct tells a dog, the leader goes first.

The owner's in charge of these dogs

An owner needs to show the dog they are pack leader 100% of the time. Not 95% but 100%. The leader goes first, therefore, if you walk your dog(s) with them in front of you, as opposed to beside or behind you, they are pack leaders during your walk (in their mind). Lets say, when you get home you do display leadership, it gets confusing to the dog. The line needs to be really clear to them. In the pack, the top wolf is not wishy washy. He’s just boss 100% of the time and no one gets away with anything. Within a pack of dogs, if the top dog IS wishy washy, another dog takes over the leadership role. It’s their instinct to take over the roll if the leader is not 100% stable. Therefore, if a dog sees a human owner going back and forth, they want to take over. They do not reason this out first in their heads as a human would before he takes over, it's instinct, they don't think, they just do.

Min Pin and Black Shepherd are in Fight Mode

Above is a picture of the two packs meeting. First, lets look at that Min Pin (little dog), the one that started the fight two weeks earlier. Her ears are pinned back to her head, her tail is ridged, standing straight up, her whole body says "Fight". Now look at the black Shiloh Shepherd puppy. Her tail is up and ridged her ears are back. She is fixated on the other dogs in a fight mode as well. The lady's adult shepherd is not showing signs of fight. While she is pulling, her tail is relaxed, her ears are not pinned. Now take a look at the man's dogs. The Rottie is not pulling on the lead, he is sitting slinked down, the man's gray shepherd puppy is showing submissive signs as well. Her tail is lowered, her ears are back, but not pinned, she is sitting and not pulling on the lead.

The leader goes first

The Min Pin tends to be aggressive with other dogs on a regular basis. The adult Shepherd is usually laid back, and besides this one dog fight, never got into a fight with another dog before. The black Shepherd puppy on the other hand had been showing signs of trying to dominate other dogs. The owner had always thought her adult gray Shepherd was the boss simply because she was older and a bigger dog. To test this, the owner got some tasty meat and called all three dogs over. She dropped the meat in a neutral spot on the floor. Who got it? Who tried the hardest? Who backed away? Sure enough, out of 4 pieces dropped, the Min Pin got three, the black puppy got one. The adult shepherd didn't even try that hard. She let the others have it. The Min Pin and the black Shepherd pup on the other hand were fixated and adamant that they get the meat first. The lady owner realizes her dogs are in charge, realizes she has two dominate dogs on her hands and is taking steps to correct this behavior, starting with the "Proper Walk".

Dogs should walk beside or behind you

One example (and a true story) of a dog feeling a person's emotions / energy... A couple was driving down the highway in a full size van. The van had no windows in the back, it was dark and the dogs were back there sleeping. In the side view mirror the driver spotted a cop suddenly putting on his lights. It startled the driver and a chill of fear when through his body. The human passenger, who was sitting right next to the driver didn't have a clue to the drivers emotions, because the driver didn't make a sound, no facial expressions no body language and didn't see the police lights. However, at the exact moment the driver felt the chill of fear, one of the dogs, who was in the back of the van awoke, stood up and started growling. The dog felt the owners energy.

Families who fight or argue a lot among themselves are more likely to have problems with their dogs. The dogs do not understand, for example, the yelling is because the kid didn't do their homework, or get to bed at a certain time, what they see, or rather what they feel, is weakness in their pack. When your dog ever sees you upset, yelling, hyper etc in your every day life, they feel your energy and perceive it as a weakness. So you could be doing everything else right, but they are picking up on your emotions. Dogs do not speak words, they communicate with body language and energy. Dogs can feel your emotions. It is important to remain strong and confident with your dog at all times. Be his solid, stable pack leader 100% of the time and be sure to provide the proper amount of exercise and you will have a happy balanced dog, a true friend.

Two Weeks Later

The owner with the three dogs has been working daily with her dogs to regain leadership, starting with the proper walk.

Since the Min Pin was the dominate dog of her pack, the owner kept the Min Pin in the very back the majority of the time. To our slight surprise, the Min Pin was not even trying to get in front, like she had in the past. One would think the Min Pin would get upset, being pushed out of the number one spot, however she actually seemed happier.  Most likely because she does not have to take on responsibility for the entire pack. The weight has been lifted from her tiny shoulders.

Walking five dogs correctly

Above is the same owner who previously had trouble walking her three dogs; walking five dogs; two Boxers, two Shepherds and a Min Pin.

Waling 5 dogs correctly

The little Min Pin (far left) and the Boxer (far right), are both dominate dogs who, in the past have gotten into dog fights. Both were considered unpredictable around strange dogs. Knowing we both owned an unpredictable dog, you know we just had to get the two together for some good old "anti-fight" therapy. The plan was to introduce the Min Pin to two Boxers that she had never met before. The first meeting of our dogs would set the premise for the day, and we knew we had to do it correctly. We decided the Min Pin, who had just gotten into a fight 2 weeks earlier, was the most unpredictable of the three dogs. Before bringing the Boxers out, we made the Min Pin sit with her back towards the Boxers, allowing the Boxers to smell the Min Pin. We did not allow the Min Pin to turn and look at the other dogs. The Min Pin did turn and growl once, and this was immediately corrected with a tug on the leash. After the smelling was done, the dogs seemed like they were going to be ok, and we unsnapped the Min Pin from her lead.

I decided not to unsnap one of the more dominate Boxers until after our walk. I have been working on her unpredictability with other dogs and have clearly noticed, she does much better with other dogs after a long walk. After the walk, none of the dogs had the slightest interest in dominating one another. The day was a complete success!

 

To better understand your dog, we strongly suggest Cesar Millan DVD's and Cesar Millan Books to every dog owner, from Chihuahua to Pit Bull. An excellent guide to communicating with, understanding,  and controlling your dog.

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